, carl -- >> that is utter nonsense. the ability to block the senate from acting and in the house, they were basically cut out of discussions. you know, one of the most telling things is that paul ryan who had advanced as a minority member of the house to advance a detailed budget couldn't -- the president couldn't even call him because they didn't have the contact information. here's the guy that ultimately became head of the appropriations of finance. >> barack obama -- the democrats owned washington for the first two years. this is just mum bow jumbo. >> wow. >> the president -- the president missed a big opportunity by failing to embrace simpson/bowles in a meaningful way. >> exactly. >> i agree. i think it was a terrible thing to do. at the same time, we have throughout all of his basic economic attempts, the republican party has said no, no, no, no to increasing revenues, governor, am i right? >> no, no the to increasing revenues, to raising the marginal tax rate. they haven't said no to increasing revenue. by the